Rob Pulham
Western Thunderer
Funny you should mention that Graham, I have been having thoughts for the tar tub too, especially on the filler cap which on mine (not fitted yet) is a bit flimsy so I suspect it shall be my next victim for completion.
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Funny you should mention that Graham, I have been having thoughts for the tar tub too, especially on the filler cap which on mine (not fitted yet) is a bit flimsy so I suspect it shall be my next victim for completion.
Steve Cook
Flying Squad
Nice work on the clamp bar and operating mechanism Rob, very impressive 
Any chance of a photo with a 1 pence or 5 pence piece next to the mech - I'm having trouble seeing what size you've managed to work down to, not yet got an eye in for 7mm
Many Thanks
Steve
Any chance of a photo with a 1 pence or 5 pence piece next to the mech - I'm having trouble seeing what size you've managed to work down to, not yet got an eye in for 7mm
Many Thanks
Steve
Rob Pulham
Western Thunderer
Hi Steve, hopefully this will give you an idea of scale.
Steve Cook
Flying Squad
Cheers Rob
Thats epic, if I was wearing a hat, I'd take it off
Steve
Thats epic, if I was wearing a hat, I'd take it off
Steve
Rob Pulham
Western Thunderer
Made in Wakefield too Simon, what could be better thanks for posting it.
Old Buffer
Western Thunderer
Rob,
This ones going to test your patience with all those screw locks on the filler.
Alan
Rob Pulham
Western Thunderer
That could be true Alan, although the rest of it looks a bit simpler - no cables. The tank barrel looks much smaller which could be a problem getting ends to suit. Not that I will be embarking on another for a while
Rob Pulham
Western Thunderer
Had a disaster on Friday night, my soldering iron packed in.
It isn't the first time so I had a spare element in stock but it took most of the evening to dig it out and fit it. The upside to this was that my good lady agreed to fund one of the ERSA units favoured by fellow members so that was duly ordered before she changed her mind
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So back to the build, you may recall earlier in the thread that Graham kindly offered to supply me with some sprung W Irons to suit as he had for my tar tub. Despite accepting Graham's offer, what I didn't have to go with Graham's W Irons were any springs (I had axlebox that were spares supplied with a lot of the Slaters/Parkside kit's and Graham has subsequently pointed me at the Exactoscale lists where RCH axleboxes and springs in ABS can be had for £3). I contemplated making some up from bronze strip as I had for Severn but didn't have any in stock.
Ultimately I was waylaid while browsing the MMP site (I like to keep up with progress on the new wagon kits). I have been musing about trying David's detailing kits for Slaters open wagons and thought that this may be the time so I ordered a couple of sets of working leaf springs, a set of underframe detailing. I would have ordered one of the internal detailing sets at the same time but all my Slaters kits are at the cottage so I didn't know exactly which to specify when ordering (I have a couple of opens but don't know offhand whether they are 4 plank 5 plank etc.).
Order placed Wednesday at 8:20 and delivered Friday AM, You cannot expect better than that
Having had experience of these before when making my glass wagon I decided to knock a couple of jigs together to help me get everything as it should be.
First I made a jig to hold the W Irons while soldering the two layers together - a simple U shaped piece of wire on a base. A couple of Aluminium hair grips and all is done very easily.
Next I wanted to make these.
Into these.
So this is a little jig that I made assist with it. It's a length of 1mm nickel bar with a short piece soldered on the side drilled to accept a piece of rod that will go through the eye of the etch and all soldered together
You place the eye over the pin with the two half etched lines visible in the shot of the etch downwards and centred over the thick end of the jig. Get a pair of pliers and open the jaws to the two etched lines visible on the top of the etched part and press downwards. Then press out the rivets and fold up the tab with the eye hole in it and you are cooking with gas.
And you end up with these.
It isn't the first time so I had a spare element in stock but it took most of the evening to dig it out and fit it. The upside to this was that my good lady agreed to fund one of the ERSA units favoured by fellow members so that was duly ordered before she changed her mind
.So back to the build, you may recall earlier in the thread that Graham kindly offered to supply me with some sprung W Irons to suit as he had for my tar tub. Despite accepting Graham's offer, what I didn't have to go with Graham's W Irons were any springs (I had axlebox that were spares supplied with a lot of the Slaters/Parkside kit's and Graham has subsequently pointed me at the Exactoscale lists where RCH axleboxes and springs in ABS can be had for £3). I contemplated making some up from bronze strip as I had for Severn but didn't have any in stock.
Ultimately I was waylaid while browsing the MMP site (I like to keep up with progress on the new wagon kits
). I have been musing about trying David's detailing kits for Slaters open wagons and thought that this may be the time so I ordered a couple of sets of working leaf springs, a set of underframe detailing. I would have ordered one of the internal detailing sets at the same time but all my Slaters kits are at the cottage so I didn't know exactly which to specify when ordering (I have a couple of opens but don't know offhand whether they are 4 plank 5 plank etc.).Order placed Wednesday at 8:20 and delivered Friday AM, You cannot expect better than that
Having had experience of these before when making my glass wagon I decided to knock a couple of jigs together to help me get everything as it should be.
First I made a jig to hold the W Irons while soldering the two layers together - a simple U shaped piece of wire on a base. A couple of Aluminium hair grips and all is done very easily.
Next I wanted to make these.
Into these.
So this is a little jig that I made assist with it. It's a length of 1mm nickel bar with a short piece soldered on the side drilled to accept a piece of rod that will go through the eye of the etch and all soldered together
You place the eye over the pin with the two half etched lines visible in the shot of the etch downwards and centred over the thick end of the jig. Get a pair of pliers and open the jaws to the two etched lines visible on the top of the etched part and press downwards. Then press out the rivets and fold up the tab with the eye hole in it and you are cooking with gas.
And you end up with these.
Old Buffer
Western Thunderer
To quote a phrase from elsewhere, "you make it look so easy".
Alan
Alan
7mmMick
Western Thunderer
Fantastic work Rob, it's amazing how a simple jig can make life so much easier and prevent burnt fingure ends and lots of swearing. You'll have to let me know how the MMP detailing stuff goes as I plan to start batch building some RCH and Company timber wagons in the near future for my planned layout ( a very long term project ). I too am looking forward to the release of the MMP LMS tube and plate wagons, need to start saving pennies
ATB Mick
ATB Mick
AdamF
Western Thunderer
Wow!!
Seconded! The units look superb.
And your use of jigs is inspired - they're so simple but make so much difference
Seconded! The units look superb.
And your use of jigs is inspired - they're so simple but make so much difference
Rob Pulham
Western Thunderer
Hi Mick, I will add the MMP detailing of the RCH wagons to this thread at some point when I get there
adrian
Flying Squad
The upside to this was that my good lady agreed to fund one of the ERSA units favoured by fellow members so that was duly ordered before she changed her mind
Ultimately I was waylaid while browsing the MMP site [...]
Order placed Wednesday at 8:20 and delivered Friday AM, You cannot expect better than that
Having had experience of these before when making my glass wagon I decided to knock a couple of jigs together to help me get everything as it should be.
Nice one! I got the ERSA RDS80 following the recommendations on here and not regretted it for one moment.
Likewise treated myself just after Christmas to the MMP Scale7 glass wagon, placed the order late one night and it turned up on the doorstep a couple of days later, makes you wonder how JLTRT can respond like that with holding no stock. I also got a set of the sprung W-irons for another scratch build project so these photo's and jigs could have come at a more opportune time. I saw at the Wigan show that hobby holidays are also producing phosphor-bronze sprung W-irons, also shown in the latest gazette. The HH units look a little on the weedy side, the leaves don't seem bulky enough, the MMP units seems to be much better in that respect, so it'll be interesting to see how you get along with them.
Rob Pulham
Western Thunderer
Hi Adrian, I had seen the HH ones but they hadn't really registered on me if that makes sense? I will have a look in the flesh at one of the shows before speculating.
28ten
Guv'nor
I think a WT back to back trial is in order
I find the MMP straightforward to assemble, it is just a question of experience. I would imagine the Slaters need a fair bit of extra weight in them?
Rob Pulham
Western Thunderer
That sounds like a fun idea.I think a WT back to back trial is in order
I am not sure the design of the parts on the website is to make fully detailed open wagons - but the internals may precede the W Irons which were a spin off.
Perhaps David could enlighten us if he sees this?
Old Buffer
Western Thunderer
I think the working leaf springs from HH are the Ambis engineering ones, could be wrong though.
Alan
Alan
adrian
Flying Squad
I presume there is some symbiotic relationship between Ambis and HH but at Wigan the guy at HH was saying that they'd developed them.
Old Buffer
Western Thunderer
Adrian,
When I went on Ambis site they stated that all their products were to be found at HH, I just presumed that the springs were Ambis, as they were in the same section as the point rodding.
Alan